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úú . good morning. it is monday, july 9, 2012. welcome to studio 57 at the cbs broadcast center. i'm charlie rose. president obama challenges republicans in congress, offering one more year of bush era tax cuts, but not for the wealthy. tens of millions of americans are cooling off as a deadly heat wave finally breaks. i'm erica hill. sources tell cbs news that the supreme court is more divided than it's been in 70 years after last month's health care ruling. plus roger federer's win comes with a surprise twist. natalie wood's death in 1981 may not have been an accident. we'll remember ernest borgnine who spent 60 years in hollywood and never stopped working until
his death at the age of 95. we begin with a look at today's eye-opener. your world in 90 seconds. we ought to protect and keep taxes low for middle class families and give them a chance. >> a bruise in washington. >> extending bush era tax cuts, but not for everyone. >> we've got the fiscal cliff. we ought to extend the current tax rates for another year. suffocating. feel like it's pounding on you. >> a cold front brings relief from a deadly heat wave after more than ten days of triple digits. >> explain the heat. >> one word, summer. one of the deadliest weekends in the long war in afghanist afghanistan. >> six american service members have been killed by a roadside bomb. >> world leaders discuss afghanistan's future. ernest borgnine has died. >> borgnine endeared himself to generations with "mchale's navy." >> people seem to like what i do. what more can you possibly say?
that's all that's needed, isn't it? great white sharks spotted on both coasts, getting too close for comfort. >> i jumped up, ran down and said get out of the water. chinese acrobat suffered only minor injuries after slipping from a tightrope. nasa released spectacular images from the surface of mars. check it out. >> all that -- >> look out. thought he was under attack. >> and all that matters. >> wimbledon title. >> andy murray's moment must wait as great britain's drought stretches another year. >> it's been incredible. thank you. >> on "cbs this morning." thank you. >> on "cbs this morning." >> getting closer. captioning funded by cbs
welcome to cbs it morning. president obama is red oi to draw a line extending the bush era tax cuts. that line would cut off people to earn more than $250,000 a year. >> the president will make a formal announcement today. as bill clinton reports, he's sending a political and economic message. bill, good morning. >> this is about sending a message. and also about getting the campaign moving again. the president today, as you said, will ask congress to extend the tax cuts for people making less than $250,000 a year. as opposed to mitt romney and the republicans who want to extend all of the bush tax cuts. the white house started to lay the framework for its tax cut argument on sunday. they're saying that president obama wants to help the middle class, while mitt romney and republican party are just out for the rich. >> the one thing he flushed out is to take the bush tax cuts
which disproportionately add millionaires -- the primary is to give tax breaks to the very wealthy. >> they're trying to paint a different picture. they support extending all of the tax cuts for middle and upper class families. >> we ought to keep the rates the same for another year. governor romney supports that. he believes that will stimulate the economy and provide certainty in the job market. >> in 2001, congress narrowly passed the tax cuts effective for ten years. when that time came, president obama and congress cut a deal o to extend the cuts two more years. that runs out at the start of next year. >> report says that if the tax cuts and if the series of automatic budget cuts take place, that could send the economy into another recession. >> what we ought to do is extend the current tax rates for another year. >> today's announcement comes as the president deals with three
months of sluggish job growth. in recent weeks, he's begun to feel increased pressure from his own party to change his economic message. >> he is going to have to say something more than we're making progress, it's slow progress, i was dealt a bad hand. he's got to be a bit bolder. >> and that is what the obama campaign hopes that this announcement will do. the president will take it to the battleground states in the days to come, campaigning on fairness. the tax cut for the middle class, of course, aimed at drawing a sharp contrast with romney. the romney campaign is doing very well. raising money. they raised $106 million in june alone. charlie, erica? >> bill plante, thank you. former pennsylvania governor ed rendell is the former chairman of the democratic national committee. his new book, a nation of wusses. let me start with what the president is going to do today. do you believe this is good politics and good economics to do this? >> i think it's good politics,
clearly. take it to the congress, show the congress isn't reacting. is it good economics? it's fairness. it doesn't put that much money towards getting rid of deficit. if we didn't extend the bush tax cuts to anybody -- but given the economy, they don't want -- >> can't afford politically do that. >> some want him to extend it up to million dollars. >> to make the case -- if you were making $251,000 and you have three kids in college, that hardly qualifies you as rich. it's difficult to draw the line. a million has a great sound to it. >> this campaign out of chicago for the president emphasized romney's wealth and talked about vacationing and how many houses and swiss bank accounts. there are some who say that it looks like an attack on the wealthy. that's not good politics. >> i think people remember that fdr and jfk, they were wealthy people and did a lot to help working people. more importantly, to attack what
mitt romney has done in his career. the things he did at bain, he has money in swiss bank accounts, that's more pertinent than it is just to say he's wealthy. big deal. that he jet skis or whatever he was doing, big deal. people understand it's a vacation. i think to draw the contrast of outsourcing, things like that, that's obviously working. you look at the battleground states and the polls there, it's clearly working. >> bain capital stuff is working you think? >> i think it's working now that they've got it in the right frame. don't call him a vampire, over the top. particularly with the white blue collar workers. >> this campaign ought to be about the future and not the past. democrats stop beating up on romney and focus on what they would do in contrast to what he would do. >> campaigns go in phases,
charlie. in the summer, you're trying to -- come the conventions, the convention speeches, the debates, it's what you talk about in terms of the changes i'm going to make, who is going to get americans back to work, those are the things that matter. >> but here's also the question. independents don't like to see a shrill campaign. that's where the election will be decided. >> i agree. two places. turnout of the base and independence. it's a big risk if you go over the top. >> and the president about his campaign is at risk of doing that? >> a little bit. better than they were out of the chute but the vampire stuff, that was clearly over the top. but i think they're getting the right pitch and the right message. you see it's working. >> what about the criticism coming from within the democratic party. time to move on, doesn't look like you have a handle on the economy. >> first of all, it's okay for the president to go back and say, remember when we were
losing 750,000 jobs a month. now we're gaining jobs. that's okay. but to keep pointing the finger of blame at someone else doesn't resonate anymore. people are getting sort of tired with that. >> does he interpret that looking forward part of all this, does the president need to get more specific much as people criticized mitt romney about what he would actually do in a second term? >> remember back in october the president laid out a jobs bill that was specific. had 11 specific proposals, erica, a number of which the republicans have approved of in certain aspects. he's got to hammer that. people understand, building the bridges, dams and levies, that puts people to work, creates orders for manufacturing factories and things like that. so he's got the best short term solution for getting the economy moving. he's got to hammer that. i think that's what the fall is about. >> you gave us a perfect segue to our next segment. millions from the midwest to the east coast are finally
getting relief from the oppressive heat. a massive cold front is pushing in from canada this morning, but the heat wave left a mark. >> the two weeks of scorching temperatures now being blamed for at least 46 deaths. as seth doane reports, it's damaged roads and buildings. seth, good morning. >> good morning, erica and charlie. that's right, that scorching heat may have triggered a massive transformer fire according to officials in new york this weekend. you can see where the fire scorched the side of this 16-story building. luckily, there were no injuries. the underground transformer burst into flames torching a nearby car. as temperatures hovered around 100 degrees in new york city this weekend. >> this heat wave is about as unusual as they get. we have had every single state in the lower 48 hit 90 or 100 degrees because of this heat wave. that's unheard of. >> the triple digit temperatures that gripped much of the east
coach and midwest are finally starting to drop. but the blistering heat has taken its toll on the nation's infrastructure. >> there was a pretty violent jerking motion. >> phillip dugaw snapped this photo of his flight in d.c. the trip was delayed after the plane's wheels sank into the melt will tarmac. >> the pilots went out and were chuckling that because of the heat the plane sunk several inches into the asphalt. >> from madison to minneapolis, roadways buckled under the scorching sun. it was so hot in maryland, the metro track expanded forcing three train cars to derail and triggering big delays. >> this hot and it wasn't very well-organized. >> as temperatures rose, so did crime in cities like chicago and new york where there have been more than a dozen murders in the past six days. still, homicides are on track
here to reach a record low this year. across the country, the sweltering heat shattered more than 2100 temperature records since july 1st. and we're only three weeks into summer. >> now, folks here on the east coast and the midwest are getting a bit of a break today. but that's as temperatures out west only push higher. already in the triple digits. expected to be closer to 110 degrees in many cities as yet another heat wave hits this nation. charlie and erica? >> seth, thank you very much. this morning the taliban is taking credit for a bombing in eastern afghanistan that killed six american troops. that attack in the province outside the capital. it was one of a series of roadside bombings that killed 29 people on sunday. there is also growing anger over newly released video showing taliban forces executing a woman who was accused of adultery with two taliban commanders.
that woman was 22. this morning, secretary of state clinton is in mongolia afa tending the afghan aid conference in japan this weekend. margaret brennan is traveling with the secretary and reports the u.s. is putting conditions on that assistance to afghanistan. >> dollars and diplomacy are the focus of the new strategy. secretary of state hillary clinton told a donor's conference here in tokyo that security should be measured by jobs and economic opportunities. >> on both fronts, afghanistan is far from success. there were more than 200 coalition force deaths in 2012 and violence is increasing. afghanistan is only capable of generating a fraction of its financial needs. its main export is still opium. that's why much of this tokyo
conference was discussed how to attract private investors and cut back on corruption. aid dollars help educate children, build roads and bridges. those are the success story. hamid karzai leaves tokyo with $16 billion in aid pledges to be paid through 2015. the u.s. is still afghanistan's top financial supporter. but secretary of state clinton says new dollars will have strings attached. she also wants private investors to put money to work in a country that ranks as the fourth most corrupt per transparency international. >> that must include fighting corruption, improving governance, strengthening the rule of law, increasing access to economic opportunity for all afghans, especially for women. >> american dollars will continue to flow into afghanistan even as the last troops roll out in 2014. the worry is that all that dependence on aid has left
afghanistan too vulnerable to stand strong on its own. for "cbs this morning," i'm margaret brennan in tokyo. the u.n. special envoy kofi annan met with assad in da mat cuss. he said he has agreed to a plan to end the escalating violence. >> in a tv interview broadcast yesterday, assad said the peace plan should not be allowed to fail and said the u.s. and others are undermining peace talks by supporting syrian opposition groups. >> it's part of the conflict. they give -- they offer the umbrella and political support to those gangs to create the dee stabilization. >> assad says he believes the majority of syrians support him and that he will not step down. cbs news has new information about the health care ruling last month a historic decision that left the court deeply divided.
as jan crawford reported on sunday on face the nation, john roberts didn't want to be the only one to switch sides at the last minute. >> when he changed his mind, he joined with the liberals who instead uphold the law and then he tried furiously with a fair amount of arm twisting to get justice kennedy to come along. sometimes he sides with the conservatives so he would have been roberts best hope. on this issue of federal power. kennedy was firm, they refused to engage with roberts on joining his opinion to uphold the law and they sat out writing their own opinion. they wrote it really to look like a majority decision, my sources say, because they hoped that roberts would rejoin them to strike down the mandate. kennedy was relentless to the end trying to get roberts to come back. roberts did not. so the conservatives decision became a dissent. the court erupts into conflict, bush versus gore a famous example in 2000. some people believe you have to
go back nearly 70 years to see this kind of tension, almost bitterness i think you could say, as it now exists among the justices. >> jan crawford with more of her inside information on that which she brought to us last week as we learned about how that decision came down and how the switch apparently happened for chief justice roberts. we have pictures of two frightening encounters with great white sharks over the weekend. on saturday, 150 yards off of cape cod, look at this picture. kayaker turns around to see, oh, hi there, the dorsal fin of a 14-foot great white. the kayaker, understandly started paddling quicker. got away safely. on sunday, another great white took a bite out of a kayak off santa cruz, california. he did survive. britain's telegraph said a virus could cut off internet access for hundreds of thousands of computers today. the virus infected the computers
a year ago when hackers ran an online advertising scam. the fbi took over the hacks of servers and realized if they turned them off, the victims would lose online access. the servers were finally shut off at midnight because they were expensive to operate. "the new york times" reports on an explosion of cell phone surveillance. they responded to 1.3 million demands for subscriber information from law enforcement agencies last year. at&t says those requests have tripled in the past five years. the financial times looks at questions over mcdonald's responsible supportship of the london olympics. with the worldwide obesity crisis, the games should not be linked to a fast food chain. wall street journal finds babies who lived in homes with dogs were healthier and had fewer ear infections. the study looked at nearly 400 babies in finland. researchers believe dirt
for more than 30 years, natalie wood's drowning was considered an accident. now, authorities say they don't know what happened. this more than, we'll show you how new evidence uncovered by 48 hours is changing this long-running mystery. roger federer leaves wimbledon with his seventh victory. andy murray leaves with admiration of millions. >> everybody talks about the pressure of playing at wimbledon. the support has been incredible. so thank you. [ applause ] >> we'll take you back to sunday's historic men's single final on "cbs this morning."
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quite the video as you watch this. in china, ooh, an acrobat performing a 650 feet in the air, blindfolded, walking backwards without a safety net. there was that misstep. down he went. he was close to side of the ravine, thankfully suffered minor injuries. he was one of the most well-known actors of our time. this morning, we'll remember ernest borgnine who died yesterday at age 95.
in real time, this is what happened. you see everybody -- >> that is no ordinary weather delay. a very loud clap of thunder sent players running at the twins/rangers game in arlington, texas, yesterday. the boom was so loud, it actually shook the television cameras. the game was held up by rain for 46 minutes. welcome back to "cbs this morning." you feel that one in your bones. >> like incoming fire, didn't it? there's a surprising development this morning in the case of natalie wood. the investigation was reopened eight months ago, 30 years after she died off the coast of los angeles. as bill whitaker reports, the l.a. coroner's office changed the cause of death from accident to undetermined. >> it's one of hollywood's most
enduring mysteries, what really happened the night actress natalie wood drowned while boating off catalina island. >> if you don't like this has been changed to undetermined or unresolved, that means it's not over. >> it was thanksgiving weekend 1981. wood and her husband, actor robert wagner, were enjoying the holiday on board the "splendour" with friend and fellow actor, christopher walken. at daylight, wood's body was found floating in the water. investigators called it an accident. speculating she had fallen and hit her head while trying to secure a dingy alongside the larger boat. >> i believe that robert wagner was with her up until the moment she went into the water. >> sparked by an interview, los angeles sheriff's detectives reopened the case last november. they gave no details, only saying they were contacted by persons with additional information about the incident. >> the information was received,
made us want to look at the case. >> the captain said late that night he heard wagner arguing with wood. >> the fighting went back to the back of the boat and then it was quiet. >> the coroner's office refuses to comment on the investigation but changing the cause of death from accident to undetermined leaves the case even more mysterious than when it started. for "cbs this morning," bill whitaker, los angeles. >> 48 hours has covered this story extensively and broken news open over the past year. correspondent erin moriarty is here as well as john miller. he's a former deputy police commissioner in los angeles. >> good morning. >> what does this mean and what will it change? >> realize this investigation has been going on almost eight months. they were hoping to end it this month. it really doesn't change a lot. what it does mean is that there is new credible evidence. it's enough to give
investigators reasonable suspicion that natalie wood's death was not an accident. but there is not enough to say what it was. there's certainly not enough to say there was homicide. there's been a real change in the narrative. back in 1981 everyone said, you know, there was rough seas and broken glass. she took the dingy. we noticed she was missing. we called the coast guard. the broken glass came from a fight. as soon as you hear there's a fight on board, then the few bruises that were found on her body suddenly become more ominous. there is reasonable suspicion, there's not enough to take this, to actually say there was a homicide. >> is there a new theory of the case, john? >> there is a new open mind to what was fairly closed theory about the case because everybody had matching stories at the time. now that the stories have split in different directions, robert wagner, in his book, told a
different story than he told police. the captain of the boat is telling a different story than he told police. where christopher walken is on this, we don't know as we sit here. but i think that really opens it up. the back end of that thought, though, is how could you make a case out of this? it's nearly -- it's a huge challenge. this is being done by sheriff's homicide. they're very competent people, a lot of experience. but even by the darkest version of this narrative, you don't have anybody saying, i saw anybody either beating anybody up or throwing anybody off a boat. what you do have is the captain saying there are things that could have been done. we could have gotten on the radio sooner, called for help faster, used the searchlight to look for her. it was robert wagner who directed me not to, which is a different story than police were told. >> questions -- not so much of what robert wagner might have
done to natalie wood but what he didn't do. trying to bring charges, it's been 30 years. the statute of limitations bars most of these lesser charges. you'd need first or second degree. i think it would be very difficult. >> correct me if i'm wrong, back when this was reopened in the late fall, started talking about it again, was it robert wagner who said he was not a suspect. >> right. >> given what you two have laid out here, why is there so much interest to reopen? is it because of the high-profile nature? if there's not enough for a conclusion, the why comes up. >> i don't think they knew when they opened it up what they would found. even when he said he wasn't a suspect, they now want to talk to everyone on board because now it's undetermined. but i think there is a lot of public interest. i think that as the stories have changed, we see this all the time on 48 hours, one case looks resolved one way and then after
30 years, people start telling the truth or a different story, and some cases get reopened. >> have we heard from chris walk en other than what he said to authorities at the time? >> there was a playboy interview. his changed a little bit too. he said that the coast guard was called right away. on the second interview, he did not say that. his story changed a little bit between what he told police and what he told playboy interview. he has not, as far as i know, spoken to anyone recently. >> thank you very much. emotions run high at wimbledon. roger federer came back to win his seventh title there. but it was the local hero, andy murray, who won the hearts of the crowd. we'll have that story from london on "cbs this morning." ( telephone rings )
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one game said it all. powerful tennis. serena williams completed a two-year comeback from surgery winning the women's singles and doubles at wimbledon. meanwhile, roger federer is on top of the tennis world again after a first grand slam victory in two and a half years. >> he beat andy murray to win a seventh wimbledon title. as charlie d'agata reports, it was a tough loss for a homegrown favorite but a goodwin for a good cause. >> i'm getting closer is how andy murray put it as he reached the finals and unable to break the home field disadvantage here at wimbledon. victory for one worthy cause. for a few moments it looked as if andy murray might just pull it off. [ applause ] >> he took the first set against
roger federer, expectations rose in the crowd holding court in the royal box. prince william's wife kate and her sister pippa middleton, prime minister david cameron and soccer star david beckham. but across town, one brit found himself on the edge of his seat and rooting for federer. >> i found my -- quite divided at that time. >> he's the head of marketing for the charity and had big money riding on the match. thanks to a donor who bet in 2003 at odds of 66 to 1 that federer would one day win seven wimbledon titles. the donor died in 2009 but promised his betting slip to the organization which tackles poverty worldwide. >> finding myself cheering on the points for murray and it was hard to be rooting for him, my heart was saying murray, but my head kept coming back to $155,000.
>> much needed money that would go towards helping starving people in west africa. >> $155,000 for the charity basically means that we can feed 10,000 people for a month. >> back on center court, the rains came. and when the roof closed, so did andy murray's chances of winning. federer flipped the switch back to flawless and powered his way to take three sets in a row. winning the tournament for a seventh time equaling the record set by pete sampras. for murray, this year's dream ended in tears. >> it's not going to be easy bim going to try this. everybody talks about the pressure of playing at wimbledon, how tough it is. the support has been incredible. so thank you. [ applause ] >> federer proved he's not only a master of the back hand but of
the back handed compliments. >> he's done so well over the years. been so consistent and to me it shows that he cares so dearly about tennis, about the tournament and he'll at least win one grand slam. >> murray's outpouring of emotion came as a surprise for somebody who has a reputation for being a bit cold. but the brits love a good cry. as one writer put it, murray may have lost it on the court, but he won the nation's hafrt. for "cbs this morning," i'm charlie d'agata at wimbledon. not that it's not great for federer. you couldn't help but pull for murray there. >> you were. i didn't have any idea. the impression was he was -- did not have that deeply felt sense of connection to this tournament because of the way he played and then to see him play so strongly and then there was a moment and then to see this remarkable emotional connection. >> yeah. anybody who wasn't rooting for him before, definitely has a soft spot now.
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>> there's no crying this baseball. apparently, no rule against fighting between parents. really? this happened in i can't gentleman after a little league championship. some fans got into it in front of the parents and one league administrator calls this "about the most disgusting i've ever seen in little league."
ya think? talk about setting a fine example. anyway. >> spoken like a true parent. >> thank you, charlie. i know you're equally outraged. >> yeah. microsoft -- >> want to know what they're fighting about. >> it does matter, chris licht. you're right, it doesn't. their fighting is ridiculous. >> he is right, this time. should we talk with micro toft? >> yes. >> big cover story in vanity fair. >> used to be cool. something went wrong over the past decade. >> we'll speak with a reporter who says bureaucracy is turning the software giant into a high tech afterthought. >> before we get to that, it's time for "healthwatch" with dr. holly phillips. >> good morning. in today's "healthwatch," coffee and skin cancer. coffee may taste good and get you going in the morning. now a new study says it could lower your risk of developing skin cancer.
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our gayle is in the control room with a look at what's coming up at 8:00. >> did he say our gayle? welcome back charlie rose. >> thank you so much. >> nice to have you back. >> good to be back. >> guess who is back? chris licht say hello to your family and friends in our viewing audience. chris licht is back too.
a pan ram of the rid planet by the mars rover. you can see the crater which was millions of years old. it's 8:00 and welcome back to "cbs this morning." guess who is back? charlie rose. happy to be back. >> you weren't at mars, were you? >> no. i didn't go to mars. it's hot up there, i'm sure. >> share as much as what you did. >> i feel bad -- i feel good, great to be back. >> freudian slip, charlie. when you don't talk much on vacation. it makes you realize how much fun there is to be had in life,a. and b, you think about how can i make these two things happen, a
passion for work and passion for vacation at the same time. that's called balance and combinations or something. it's good to be back. >> when you figure it out, let us know. we're glad you're back. it's 8:00 and charlie is here. >> i'm with erica hill. microsoft is the world's largest software company but the creator of windows lost it's leadership role in high tech to apple and google and facebook. >> investigators eichenwald writes about microsoft's lost decade. >> kurt ieichenwald is here. what's the problem with microsoft? >> in the simplest term, microsoft lost its way. >> we know that. that's the consequence. >> what happened was, you had a company where everybody was making millions solely from the rise of stock prices. and when that changed, when the stock hit a wall, they had to figure out how do we keep people
motivated and going and what they've done is they've created a company that's really more like a g.e. or more like an auto company. the idea of being incentivized to develop product just isn't there anymore. you've got people who are incentivized to climb the corporate ladder and to compete with each other in terms of getting the next bonus and the culture just doesn't have that infusion of dynamic moving to the next step. >> there is this thing called a stacking system which you talk about here, which jack welsh famously used very well at g.e., but it doesn't work according to what you found out? >> no. i mean -- >> at microsoft. >> the thing is, nothing can be grafted from one company to the next. every company has a different culture and different requirements and different needs. >> could you explain how that works?
when i read it, i said this has to be wrong, this stacking. >> exactly. >> system. >> the way it works is you take -- let's say the four of us work in the same division and we have a boss, i guess you guys all have a boss somewhere. >> we do. >> that boss looks down and said it doesn't matter what kind of job you're doing, one of you is great, two of you are mediocre and one of you is terrible. i, as your boss have no choice. my boss says i have to rank you that way. >> what if two were great? >> it does not matter. >> jack welsh, as he defined this, it's an interesting quote. the bottom 10% he said, you owe it to them to say, you don't have a great future here and make a shift. that's ate responsibility to tell them why and what's happened rather than saying there's other guys -- >> but then you get the probabilities. sure, there may be 10% throughout the whole company. what's the probability that 10%
breaks up evenly unit to unit to unit. if you have the 10-person unit, what's the probability that one of those people is in fact one of -- >> erica, in her introduction used the word scathing. did you mean for that and did you get a hard time getting people to talk to you? >> it's funny because i don't start off with any article going -- when i read online, somebody said scathing article. i thought, really? it is a little rough. >> steve is not going to be inviting you to lunch any time soon. >> she means steve who followed bill gates. >> i didn't have a lot of trouble getting people to talk to me. what's interesting is the main issue is getting somebody to return your phone calls. a lot of people did and once they did, they really opened up and it was -- it was not from the position of i'm griping
about microsoft. it was more from the position of resigned acceptance -- >> did you talk to bill gates? >> i did not. but he's not really been a significant force inside the company in terms of management for several years. >> is part of the problem with the company that it seems to have lost focus? because for so long, it was the software giant. trying to do too much? >> absolutely. >> not doing any of it well. >> the easiest way to point out is to say who is competing with microsoft? depends which division you're talking about. x-box competes with sony, on business to business, it competes with ibm. on computers, ipads, phones, pads, it competes with apple. on search, it competes with google. every one of these is a completely different and often unrelated business.
so when you have something that the standard is, is it technology? microsoft will try it. you've gone so thin, you've gone so disparate that it's hard to keep your focus. >> in many cases, it's a game of catch-up. does microsoft in some ways need to cut its losses and focus on one thing? >> microsoft needs to figure out what it wants to be when it grows up. in truth, you have several companies inside one big company. it happens in the past. they should be broken up. >> that's an anti-trust question -- >> i mean from a corporate strategy question. >> all the companies are in each other's business now. they're all in social networking now. they're all in search now one way or the other. microsoft now has bain which is getting good reviews.
>> but it doesn't matter. it's costing them billions and it's not -- bing is their search engine against google. google keeps growing in the number of customers it has, number of people using it. >> what should microsoft focus on? >> what they do well. servers, operating system, software. business to business. nobody does that like them. getting consulting business to help set up corporate operations. they can do devices, which is a completely different area, but they need to free it of the overarching corporate problems that you have when you have so many different companies together. >> say this quickly. the irony is they used to laugh at ibm as you point out. ibm has been able to regroup and become very successful. microsoft has to somehow learn that lesson now. >> apple did it, too. >> apple came back under the new
leadership. so there's hope in time for microsoft. >> you said they're just not cool anymore. there's something to be said about being cool. >> thank you, kurt. >> kurt's article is in the new from action movies to sitcoms, ernest borgnine did it all. we'll visit a restaurant where they love him so much, they made him part of the decor. this is "cbs this morning." we'll be right back after the break. i am you
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navy commander. >> even the kids know him from spongebob squarepants. borgnine also endured an unusual kind of recognition from a new york city taco shop. in 2009 sunday morning's bill geist talked with borgnine about his career and the devotion of his fans. >> the tortilla flats restaurant in new york may look like just another taco joint. but inside is something of a borgnine shrine. >> we were trying to preserve the legend of ernest borgnine. >> i say earn -- >> owner jean ban burr. >> we're the ernest borgnine of restaurants. we're sort of just a plain, unassuming very casual place. ernie is like that too. >> ladies and gentlemen, good evening everybody. welcome to the 17th annual ernest borgnine night.
>> the special ernest borgnine night is an annual event. but here they exalt the man all year long. >> this is a photograph of ernie sitting right where i'm sitting. >> wow. >> there's the hallowed borgnine booth. there are ernie relics and ernie artifacts. this is the original coat worn by ernie in the sitcom the single guy. >> that one day, that garment will be as sacred and as revered as the shroud of tour. >> actor director john turturro and his son are ernie aficionados. >> my father was a fan, i'm a fan, my son is an ernest borgnine fan. we love you, ernie. >> one of his wives was a famous broadway singer. who was it? >> on borgnine night, there were ernie trivia questions. >> is it either ethel merman or lies a mi nell a.
picture them in your mind and picture them with ernest borgnine? >> ethel merman? congratulations. >> blue suit, gray suit. i'm a fat little man, a fat, ugly man. >> there was a look alike contest. since no one looked like ernie at all, it became an act alike contest where entrants read lines from the film "marty." >> i'm still a fat man, a fat, ugly man. i'm ugly. >> fat, ugly man. the winner somehow was this matched pair of fellows from london. so what does ernie, age 92 and living in beverly hills, make of all this stuff? >> i said, i think that's absolutely marvelous. >> were you shocked? were you surprised? didn't know what is this all about? >> yeah. why me? why not? very first time i walked in, i walked in unannounced.
and a great big hush, oh, my god, he's here. and we proceeded to get pretty stiff. [ laughter ] >> he's now made 200 films and counting. >> what's the sense of retiring? retiring to what? what are you going to retire to? an easy chair? remember this one? escape from new york where i played cabbie. >> in his more than five decades of acting, ernie has worn many hats, so to speak. often playing sadistic villains. >> this is the one from emperor of the north. where i played the biggest baddie i've ever played in my life. >> he sometimes played the flip side too. >> how is the skipper doing? i don't think he's going to make? >> who could forget commander quentin mchale in the comedy
"mchale's navy." >> there he is. >> now there's a whole new generation of fans that know him as the voice of mermaid man in spongebob squarepants. >> i'm back to my old self again. >> really? you ever sign an autograph mermaid man? >> absolutely. >> at the theater in hollywood, celebrity studded crowd gathered for the 28th academy award ceremonies. >> fans of mermaid man might be surprised to hear he earned an oscar for the film "marty" back when movie stars were movie stars. >> i was up against jimmy cagney in love me or leave me, frank sinatra, man with a golden arm and james dean in east of eden and spencer tracy in bad day at black rock. >> it was presented to you by whom? >> grace kelly.
>> wow. he reflects on the moment at oscar time. >> it meant that my peers held me in esteem. and i'll never forget that. so there comes a time for the academy awards, i have mine up there up above the television, i sit my fat easy chair and i've got mine. fight for it. >> everybody say hello to ernest borgnine in person. [ applause ] >> ernie called tortilla flats thrillingly assembled -- >> i hope to get over there very soon and have a drink with all of you. >> on borgnine night, it doesn't get any better than that. >> if my water breaks tonight, i'm going to name it ernie. somebody dies at 95, has such a great life, who gotta
claim, was respected for what they did and had a good time. >> and was still working up to the end. i love it. i love that people loved him so much. what a nice tribute. >> he embraced all of that with the we love ernie nights. it's great to see somebody appreciated. >> the moment that he won the oscar, james dean, jimmy cagney, frank sinatra. >> given by grace kelly. not too bad. when we come back, a retro eyewear company with cool glasses at a great price. we'll meet the guys behind this venture. we'll waive back to you too when we come back. i love when people wave. this portion of "cbs this morning" sponsored by citi thank you cards. thankyou card for a relaxing vacation. ♪ sometimes, we go for a ride in the park. maybe do a little sightseeing.
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hello nashville, tennessee. you look good this morning. welcome back to "cbs this morning." jennifer wiener knows how to connect with her female fans. her nine best selling books have sold 11 million copies. that's worth repeating. 11 copies in 36 countries, thank you very much. >> her new novel the next best thing about a young writer with big hollywood dreams.
jennifer wiener is here in studio 57. good morning. nice to have you here. >> thanks for having me. >> this is number ten for you. >> lucky number ten. sucks you in right away. >> what is it that you have found? you have this thing with women. you write something and 11 million copies. >> somebody at one of my readings once said, you write what i think. and at first i'm like, oh, my gosh, that's the nicest compliment. then i'm like, what's wrong with me, i'm saying what people think but know better than to say. i'm missing a filter. >> that's worked out well. >> my missing filter provided me -- it works. >> here we are with number ten. the next best thing. what i liked about it is because it involves tv and a tv show. >> yes. >> and the tv show, tell us about that. number one, let's talk about your title. i love the titles of your books. the next best thing, good and bad. i'm curious about the research you did for that. but your tv show. >> i developed -- this happened
to me. i had a development deal with abc, wanted to write a book about a big girl who goes to miami, she wants to be a chef. but she's the star. she gets the guy. she gets the jokes. she gets the clothes. not the funny best friend. she's not the sidekick. >> she has a wonderful grandmother. my heroin, ruth saunders, show gets green lit and things start going downhill and they change everything. >> you write about what you get the call. did that happen to you that way? somebody named lumpy alice, turn in your credentials? >> this is sad and hard to talk about. i found out my show was canceled on the internet. i read it on deadline. >> no one called you to tell you. >> they called me about five minutes after it was on deadline. i guess yea deadline. it hurt. it was painful. >> i would think that would hurt. this is the thing. how does that get out?
when it's all confidential, i always wonder how does this confidential stuff always get out in. >> it's funny. you're in the room going over the testing. the top secret testing where they had taken your pilot to malls across america and showed it to women, ipads off, iphones off, this is not going to show up on deadline and two seconds later, it's on deadline. i don't know if the rooms are bugged or what. but deadline. >> did you decide, was there something about you that you saw something was missing with women. as you point out, somebody said about you i almost forgotten how good it feels to read about strong women who can -- if she's not a skinny mini, has flaws, not perfection. >> are you talking about your own life here? >> absolutely. they always said when i took creative writing classes, they said write the book that you don't see on the shelf that you want to read. so i said -- i was 28 years old, first book, been through this terrible break-up and i said i'm going to to write a book where the girl is a lot like me and
the guy is a lot like satan and i'm going to give her my dysfunctional family. i had a mom who sort of came out of the closet at 54. very interesting. >> came out of the closet as a gay person? >> as a proud, gay lesbian woman. as a shocker. we were all shocked. >> i'm shocked, too. i don't even know your mom and i'm shocked. >> we were friends. my brother was in college. he goes to my mother's bathroom to look for nail clippers as you do, finds love letters from a lady. >> from a woman. >> calls me at work and says there's a woman living in this house. i think she and fran are in love. i call my mom and say what's going on. jenny, that's my swim coach. it's not melissa gear. ha is the deal? okay well, i'm gay and i'm in love and we're living together, click. there i am at my desk at the philadelphia enquirer. i'm like -- >> did my mom just say that?
>> right, exactly. >> did she support your career? you get this book, good and bad. did your mom say i'm so proud of my daughter? >> this is hilarious, every time i go home, i'm writing my novel, she lays her hand across her forehead in this fashion and says oh, yes, your novel. she didn't believe i was writing a novel. they say the happiest day is when you tell your mom your novel is being published. not so true when the book is called good in bed. you know that novel you never believed is happening, shy monday and schuster bought it. she burst into tears, we're both crying. she said what is it called? she said good in bed. >> she said good and bad. i said no, sorry. she says how much research did you do? >> what was the answer to that question? i'm curious about that. >> i had tony morrison as one of my writing professors in college. it took me half a semester to look at her. i turned in my first piece of
work. we have a first conference and she says there's a lot of sex in this story. have you ever had any? i'm like, pass. anyhow -- >> i refuse to answer on the grounds that it may not incriminate me. >> what is your personal life? you have children? >> it's a little complicated right now. i have kids. i live in philadelphia. >> cliff note version. >> two daughters, live in philadelphia. i have beautiful girls. they're smart and funny. one wants to be a writer. the other one wants to go on the bachelor. we're talking about that. she pulled my highest heels out of closet and she said, oh, she wants to try my shoes on. phoebe, what are you doing? i will wear these when i go to be on the bachelor. she's four. i'm like no you won't. not happening. >> where is she getting her desire from the bachelor from? >> sadly, sadly, gayle, i have a little problem. i will admit it. i am a bachelor/bachelorette
addict. i live tweet every night. every monday. i love it. it's the fairytale. i'm a sucker for a fairytale. >> before we let you go, there's a memorial service for nora efron. she was a great influence for you. >> she was one of the writers, i remember being 12 years old and finding the book crazy salad in my mom's chef. some things about women. there was an essay about breasts. i'm reading this and thinking, we're allowed to talk about this? like this is okay? we can talk about our books. then i thought, this is how i want to write. these are the stories i want to tell, this is the voice i want to tell them in. i don't want to pretend i'm a guy. i don't want to talk about what's quote-unquote serious or acceptable. these are the stories i want to tell. she made that possible for so many of us. >> she really did. >> she really did. >> some would say, you make it possible too. >> i would love -- they do. i would love to be a role model that kind of way. >> in a way of shameless groveling. in the book, the next best thing
when she got her big break, she did interviews on good morning america and the "today" show. i'm just saying. >> interviews. next book -- >> we'll be mad at you if you just said "cbs this morning." >> we would not be upset. we would be happy to be part of that. >> you are first on my list. >> we have that on tape, gayle. >> it is shameless begging. >> thank you for having me. thanks so much. >> her namea as you know, is jennifer wiener. lucky ten is the next best thing is on sale at your favorite book place where you get your books. warby parker is called the netflix of eyewear. you don't need glasses to see why. two ceos will tell us their vision for making the
after just two years, the online eyewear company warby parker is known as one of the most innovative fashion brands around. sorry. we were just sharing a little frivolity before we went on the air with the one and only charlie rose. go ahead. >> business model includes donating a pair of glasses for every pair. david gilboa and neil blumenthal join us now. this is a great idea. welcome. >> thank you for having us. >> how did it come about? how did two young guys say here's a business snoo. >> we love glasses. we think they're a great fashion accessory. we couldn't understand why they're so expensive. technology that's been around for 800 years. it didn't make any sense to us that glasses would cost more than an iphone. >> there's no tech breakthrough. >> they're just plastic. i went this past weekend to buy a pair of glasses. i had the frames guys. by the time i got my lenses, it
came to $542 with $100 off. it doesn't make sense. a little piece of plastic with stuff in it cost this is much. >> you're at wharton business schoolworking together and you think, okay. what do you do with that information? >> we are literally in the computer lab talking and one of our friends had this idea to sell glasses online and the light bulbs went off. we thought this is a powerful idea. prior to business school, i had run a nonprofit distributing eyeglasses in a developing world and i knew that it didn't cost that much to manufacture glasses. we thought what if we could design the frames we love, use the best materials out there, but then sell them direct to consumers through warby parker.com and bypass the middlemen. bypass the optical retailers, bypass the licensing companies because it was all under our own brand. >> we got to try on the glasses first, though. that's why i was thrown by your idea. i want to try on the glasses first to see if they go with the shape of your face.
>> that was the hardest thing for us to figure out. would people buy glasses online. we thought, is there a technological solution? we found this facial recognition software where you could up load your photo and virtually try it on. we thought, would we buy just doing that? >> no. >> then we came up with an idea to do home try-on to select five pairs of frames, we'll ship it free of cost with no obligation to buy and five days to try it on at home. >> voila. >> and the response to that was terrific? >> so we were full-time students, we launched out of our apartment and we ended up getting featured in gq and vogue. then we hit our sales targets in three weeks and sold out of inventory and were staying up all night answering e-mails and phone calls. trying to make sure we graduated from business school at the same time. >> what's happening today in style and fashion end of glasses? >> i think glasses are having a fashion moment where people
really are recognizing that they are a powerful form of self-expression. it's one of the only things you wear on your face and the type of glasses say who you are as a person. >> what do your glasses say about you, that you're wearing? please explain. >> all our glasses right now are acetate frames which are a little bit bolder and really -- >> won't admit it. but he uses this color to bring out his eyes. >> that is what i was thinking. that is what i was thinking. it is. >> take somebody like steve jobs. he was almost defined by those glasses were efficient, simple, basic. the design, obviously appealed to him. >> right. we wanted to make glasses affordable so people could own more than one pair. right now people in the u.s. tend to buy a new pair of glasses every time their prescription expires, every couple years. we think at $95 people can afford to own multiple pairs and you can wear different pairs with different outfits for
different occasions. when you're in different moods. so we really wanted to turn glasses into a real accessory. >> they are. >> somebody is asking about the quality of your glasses versus the quality of those that they go to their optometrist to get. >> we use the exact same kind of premium materials, custom acetates, titanium. >> where are they manufactured? >> so we have a global supply chain where -- >> starts where? >> a lot of the raw materials come from an italian-owned family, frames in asia and the lens work done in the u.s. >> don't most of the glasses, guys, come from the same place? >> yeah. >> give me the numbers on that. there are maybe how many choices, but they're all made at the same place, are they not? >> what's crazy. it's a big industry, about $17 billion a year. there's one company in particular that dominates it. a company that has -- they out right own oakley, ray ban. they have licenses to call the
big fashion brands like ralph lauren, chanel, prada. they outright own the retail chains. pearl vision. >> that's the thing, charlie. depending on where you go, you're paying x amount of dollars for the same glasses. what you also do in addition to your cool name of warby parker, i love the name, is that for every pair of glasses that are bought, then you donate to other people that don't have the -- that cannot afford glasses, true? >> exactly. one of the things that was important for us is to create a company that we were excited to come to work to every day. we recognize that there are hundreds of millions of people that don't have access to glasses. that has a profound impact on the ability to learn in the classroom and earn an income. we thought how can we -- we thought it was the most changeable way was to contribute a pair for every pair that we sell. we try and do that in a thoughtful way. we partner with this nonprofit called vision spring that trains low income men and women to
start their own businesses giving eye exams and selling glasses in their communities. >> i love everything about it. i can't wait until you do the progression lenses, fellas. >> thank you. >> putting it on the table. do with it what you will. thank you. congratulations. >> thank you so much. >> pleasure to have you here. for more than a week now, firefighters have been burning down houses in new york city to learn how to today's homes and furniture actually burn. we'll go inside this project when "cbs this morning
firefighting tactics. >> ignition in five, four, three, two, one. >> this isn't your average fire drill. it's a controlled burn of an abandoned roadhouse on new york city's governor's island. decked out with modern furniture to provide fuel for the blaze. cameras and computer equipment track what happens inside and out. >> each one of these lifl points is measuring a temperature so we can measure temperature floor to ceiling to see how it grows. >> what will that tell you in. >> that will tell us temperatures where it's safe for the firefighters to come in, what they are exposed to. >> in the past decades, firefighters have had less time to fight fires from within a home. homes are burning faster and hotter than ever. modern advances like weatherproof windows, pressed wood furniture and synthetic carpeting made it more dangerous for those fighting back the flames. >> so this couch here is what?
synthetic? >> yes. this is a synthetic couch like anyone would have in their home. >> fire eats that up? >> fire eats that up. >> more quickly? >> yes, it will spread faster across that sofa, release more energy. that means the firefighters have to be more innovative. >> engineers are trying to give firefighters more time inside buildings fully engulfed in flames. precious minutes that could ultimately save lives. >> 30 years ago, fires took 20 minutes to flash over oren gulf an entire area. today that critical point can be reached in as little as four minutes with temperatures jumping sharply from 250 to 1500 degrees in as little as ten seconds. a process we witnessed firsthand. >> we have flames out the window. so this room now has flashed over. we have flames from floor to ceiling in that room. >> in the real world, the danger facing firefighters became frighteningly clear in 2007 at a
furniture store in charleston, south carolina. in a matter of seconds, a 42,000 square foot showroom erupted in a flashover. nine firefighters lost their lives. >> a lot of people think that firefighters just show up and break everything and put the fire out. they have to think a lot more today. >> with these tests, researchers hope to find new ways to fight fires faster, while reducing the risk for the men and women whose job description is to step directly in harm's way. >> for "cbs this morning," michelle miller in new york. it's good to see they're doing things like this. >> for sure. they'll be ready in the event they're needed. >> are you a good shopper? >> yeah. >> do you need to ask that question, charlie rose? >> i'm a good sale and bargain shopper. that's why i'm excited about the glasses. i really am charlie. i bought some bootleg glasses in china. i'm not proud of it. but i did. to know -- >> why am i not surprised in.